Ep. 20: Most People Could Build a Lightsaber

Ep. 20: Most People Could Build a Lightsaber

Episode 20, ‘Most People Could Build a Lightsaber’, on Star Wars: The Force Awakens

In this episode, Dave and Steve discuss their hopes (and fears) for Disney’s first foray into the Star Wars universe.

Show Notes

  • Intro Clip: Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
  • As a prospective, this episode contains absolutely no spoilers for The Force Awakens because we haven’t seen it yet and don’t know anything about it — other than a few trailers and an IMDB page.
  • Steven is a jerk about Dave’s mouth trumpet.
  • For people who don’t call themselves Star Wars Nerds, Dave and Steve sound a lot like Star Wars Nerds.
  • There are two sides to the Force: the Good side and the Light side.
  • Star Wars = The Beatles
  • Dave makes a good point about nostalgia. In response, Steven rambles incoherently.
  • Where are all the Star Wars clones? That is, not the clone troopers copied from the genetic code of Jango Fett, but the sprawling space opera adventure myths.
  • Dave shares a fantasy.
  • Steven doesn’t like science.
  • Episode 6.5: The Force Slumbers/Naps.
  • Dave sees feelings.
  • Dave is right.
  • Quickening.
  • Dave and Steve overanalyze a couple of sentences.
  • Dave writes some ridiculous lines in case Abrams wants to do a quick edit before the premier.
  • Steven squeals. Loudly. He’s sorry.
  • Steven knows that, technically, Luke didn’t kill the Emperor. Email Dave if you’re angry.
  • Is anyone surprised that Steven is interested in the political science questions of the new Star Wars?
  • There are no batons on Tatooine.
  • Steven takes predictions far too seriously.
  • Steven, who, again, does not identify as a Star Wars Nerd, corrects Dave on the life span of clone troopers.
  • Dave and Steve baselessly speculate about the plot of the movie.
  • “African American” really doesn’t work galaxy far, far away.
  • Steven misremembers the expanded universe of Star Wars.
  • Steven misremembers Luke’s technical prowess.
  • Dave says some bullshit about Armageddon.
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Ep. 19: The Good Enough Dinosaur

Ep. 19: The Good Enough Dinosaur

Episode 19, ‘The Good Enough Dinosaur’, on The Good Dinosaur

In this Episode Dave and Steven discuss the good and bad of the newest pixar creation: The Good Dinosaur.

  • Intro Clip: The Good Dinosaur
  • Dave talks about his experience watching teenagers make out. As a reminder, Dave is a 34 year old man.
  • Regarding 3D: Dave and Steve used to watch movies uphill, in the snow, both ways.
  • Hopefully this is the last episode where Steve brags about “not watching” trailers.
  • Pixar: From Uncanny Valley to the Singularity.
  • Steven inserts himself into the contentious debate on whether Brontosaurus excelsus belongs in the genus A. excelsus.
  • Does “longneck” sound racist to anyone else?
  • Dave uses the word “boner”.
  • A five minute stretch where Dave and Steve tear apart a kids movie for lacking subtlety.
  • The moral of this film: You need to change who you are, because you are not good enough.
  • Other moral: You gotta keep ’em separated.
  • Continuing a long-standing debate, Dave uses the word “literally” to mean “not in a literal manner”. Twice.
  • Steve makes a pun without realizing it, realizes it, and points it out. Dave responds with “boom”.
  • Dave finally admits that he’s racist towards people that aren’t human.
  • Steven complains that this movie didn’t include negotiations with the Trade Federation.
  • Dave swears.
  • Okay, Dave and Steve, you are clearly in a bad space today, but Spot is our friend and Pixar are septuple Oscar winners. Are you?
  • Steven has an agenda?
  • Steven is pretty sure this song was in the movie.
  • Dave renames the film. It’s a bit of a mouthful, but it works.
  • Then he renames it again. Less of a mouthful this time.
  • Dave suggests that it’s not a real relationship unless it is filled with lies.
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Ep. 18: Renting out Rick Moranis

Ep. 18: Renting out Rick Moranis

Episode 18, ‘Renting out Rick Moranis’, Actor Profile: Rick Moranis

In this episode Dave and Steven do another actor profile. This time following the short, and sweet career of the world’s most beloved nerd: Rick Moranis.

  • Intro Clip: “Nine More Gallons” by Rick Moranis
  • Dave slips in a reference to himself as “a great Canadian”.
  • Dave and Steve support making fun of Can-con regulations.
  • Today’s podcast is sponsored by the word “trajectory”.
  • Ghostbusters paved the way for Honey, I Shrunk the Kids.
  • Before nerds were cool, Moranis thrived on the adult nerd character.
  • Dave isn’t jazzed by country music.
  • Listeners, you have all just been categorized into “Dave’s People” and “Steve’s People”. As it turns out, almost everyone is “Steve’s People”.
  • Dave starts to sound like Rick Moranis is either his spirit animal or soulmate.
  • Rick Moranis was originally cast as Phil in City Slickers, but had to drop out because of [Sad part of the Podcast].
  • Dave and Steve make completely unsubstantiated claims about Rick Moranis as a father.
  • Steven does something shocking.
  • A brief comparison of Danny DeVito and Rick Moranis — and, implicitly, John Goodman and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
  • The Flintstones (1994) is The Dark Knight version of the 1960s The Flintstones.
  • Dave becomes the guy who makes the decision.
  • This may be our giddiest episode yet.
  • Dave and Steve believe everything that they read on Wikipedia.
  • Uh. Hey Dave? Authoritatively.
  • Not satisfied with an entire episode making fun of Nicolas Cage, Dave and Steven go out of their way to harp on him some more.
  • Are Dave and Steve Internet bullies?
  • Little Giants is to Steve as The Mighty Ducks 2 is to Dave.
  • Steve makes a pun, points out the fact that he made the pun, then Dave explains the pun.
  • If Mel Brooks, Arnold Schwarzenegger, or Wes Anderson are looking for movie plots, this episode is the one for them.
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Ep. 17: Hey Adults in the Audience, Cry about This for a Second

Ep. 17: Hey Adults in the Audience, Cry about This for a Second

Episode 17, ‘Hey Adults in the Audience, Cry about This for a Second’, on Pixar films

In this episode of Dave’s favourite podcast, Dave and Steven discuss the good and the bad of Pixar movies…although, let’s be honest. They mostly just discuss the good.

Show Notes

  • Intro Clip: The Incredibles
  • Dave and Steve aren’t the same age.
  • No, we will not be talking about the Cars movies.
  • Steve suggests that they will not be discussing Pixar’s shorts.
  • Dave starts discussing Pixar’s shorts.
  • Toy Story is Magic and Whimsy and Fantasy”.
  • What is the difference between Toy Story, Toy Soldiers, & Small Soldiers?
  • Pixar is good at living in the real world of childhood experiences: divorce, youth obesity, and mass genocide.
  • Just how important is this Joss Whedon guy?
  • No wasted space
  • Dave has something important to tell Steven.
  • Adult themes hidden in the films, but not ‘hidden’ like the Shrek films.
  • Genocide really seems to upset Dave.
  • Yet again, Dave finds another sports movie that we missed in episode 6.
  • Steven lies about when The Style Guide is going to do an episode on The Good Dinosaur.
  • Inside Out makes Dave think he’s smarter than babies.
  • Dave describes, in depth, his fantasies.
  • The importance of thinking through the logical consequences of novel premises.
  • Inside Out > Inception
  • Pixarification of Disney or the Disneyification of Pixar?
  • What’s love got to do with it?
  • Let Pixar be Pixar.

Potentially Unexpected Spoilers

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Ep. 16: Monkeys Project Meaning Onto the Objects Around Them

Ep. 16: Monkeys Project Meaning Onto the Objects Around Them

Episode 16, ‘Monkeys project meaning onto the objects around them’, on science fiction thrillers

In this episode Dave and Steven discuss Science-Fiction Thrillers. It’s not that sciency or that thrilling…but it is fascinating.

  • Intro Clip: Event Horizon
  • A lengthy discussion about strings.
  • Is 2001: A Space Odyssey a sci-fiction thriller? Or is it a sci-fiction thriller sandwich?
  • The banal experience of Sandra Bullock.
  • Los Angeles.
  • Did that thing Dave said about Ice Cube sound kinda racist?
  • Something something Ghosts of Mars.
  • Steven discusses the physical properties of a cube.
  • How many thrilling moments do you need before it becomes a “thriller”?
  • Steven calls Total Recall a drama and absolutely nobody corrects him.
  • Was anyone else confused by Prometheus?
  • You can never go home again, sci-fi thrillers.
  • Steven shares a traumatic story from his childhood.
  • It may be thrilling to open a portal to a hell dimension and get possessed by the devil, but where exactly is the science?
  • Steven spoils Intersteller for Dave* — and then swears about it.
  • Dave thinks that “Icarus” is a stupid name for a ship, “you idiots”.
  • Toightened or tauted?
  • Dave proclaims his love for watching Russian films from the 1970’s sans subtitles.
  • Steven makes an announcement on behalf of you, the listener.
  • “An Abundance of Obviousity” is really the kind of pretentious phrase you would expect to come from Steve and not Dave.
  • Dave and Steve are simultaneously seduced.
  • Finishing our Simple Objects Trilogy, Dave and Steve discuss the fundamental human condition.

*And possibly you too, depending on when you read the show notes.

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Ep. 15: Two Dogs, Three Dogs, and Different Things Upon Their Face

Ep. 15: Two Dogs, Three Dogs, and Different Things Upon Their Face

Episode 15, ‘Two dogs, three dogs, and different things upon their face’, on the BBC’s Sherlock

Dave and Steve discuss what has likely become the definitive modern take on Sherlock Holmes, starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman.

Show Notes

  • Intro Clip: Sherlock, His Last Vow [3×1]
  • It’s Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Dave. Sir.
  • Steven brags about how many Sherlock Holmes stories he’s read.
  • Who is the better Sherlock: Columbo, Luther, or Dr. House?
  • As usual, Steven forgets all about heroin.
  • Benedict Cumberbatch, best Sherlock or bestest Sherlock?
  • Steven says, “whole heartily”.
  • Dave and Steve gush over the cast.
  • Telling a detective story in 2015 is pretty hard, because of how easy technology makes everything.
  • Dave swears.
  • We say “mind palace” so many times that it loses all meaning.
  • Dave says, “sedultress”.
  • Is the middle episode of every series always the worst?
  • Steven perfectly speaks Dave’s exact thoughts.
  • Circling back to episode 8, Dave and Steve debate the faults of Charles Magnussen.
  • Steve sounds a lot like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory.
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Ep. 14: I’m Shocked That I’ve Been Enjoying Republican Fantasies

Ep. 14: I’m Shocked That I’ve Been Enjoying Republican Fantasies

Episode 14, ‘I’m shocked that I’ve been enjoying Republican fantasies’, on Christmas Action movies

In this episode Dave and Steven discuss Christmas Action Movies in preparation for Paper Street Theatre’s upcoming Christmas Show, Lethal Christmas.

Show Notes

  • Intro Clip: Jingle All The Way
  • Dave and Steve believe that they’re the first people to have discovered writer/director Shane Black.
  • The obvious question: What exactly transforms a regular movie into a Christmas Action Flick?
  • Steven posits the death of the genre. Together Dave and Steve offer an explanation.
  • Does Christmas + Action = awesome? Yes. Yes it does. For a variety of reasons.
  • Christmas is better than other holidays.
  • What movies work better with Halloween instead of Christmas?
  • Dave brings up Copyright free music.
  • Dave, unironically, uses the word “togetherness“.
  • As we have come to expect from him, Steven talks about the importance of children.
  • Steven is only one step removed from writing an academic paper about how Christmas action movies frame organizations as incompetent and individuals as ultra-capable.
  • Steven makes a hypothesis. Dave’s mind is blown.
  • They end talking about how to improvise the style.

Spoiler Warnings

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Ep. 13: They Create the Art That They Want to Hear

Ep. 13: They Create the Art That They Want to Hear

Episode 13, ‘They create the art that they want to hear’, on The Decemberists

In this episode, Dave and Steven try something completely different and tackle a musical group. They discuss the music, stories, and style of The Decemberists.

Show Notes

  • Intro Clip: The Simpsons, The Day the Earth Stood Cool [24×7]
  • Dave is recovering from surgery so forgive him if he sounds off in this episode; Steven has no such excuse.
  • The Decemberists Dictionary
  • Steven sings. Multiple times. He is sorry about that.
  • The tragic love story; fascination with water and drowning; and the return of oral history.
  • Colin Meloy’s First Band: Tarkio
  • Steven is going to stop reading Shakespeare alongside every single episode of the podcast. Right after this episode.
  • The four eras of The Decemberists: the early, raw, and cynical stuff; the cultural critique; the heavy, storytelling approach; and the family years.
  • There is a brief debate about what The Crane Wife album is based on: Dave says that it’s an old Japanese folktale about a man who falls in love with a crane; Steven says that it’s about Caliban from Shakespeare’s The Tempest. Both, in the end, are right.
  • The raw power of young Eddie Murphy.
  • Chris Funk and Nate Query’s side project band: Black Prairie. It also features Jenny Conlee and John Moen.
  • Jack White and Colin Meloy, kindred spirits?
  • Steve corrects Dave. It goes about as one would expect.
  • We struggle with the notion of ‘favorites’ when talking about The Decemberists.
  • Dave plays guitar. He is not sorry about that.
  • Colin Meloy’s Novel: Wildwood Chronicles
  • Steven talks about the experience of fatherhood from a first-person perspective.
  • Dave corrects Steve.
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Ep. 12: It’s a Period Piece for the 1980s

Ep. 12: It’s a Period Piece for the 1980s

Episode 12, ‘It’s a period piece for the 1980s’, on Back to the Future

Dave and Steven couldn’t resist talking about Back to the Future as October 21st draws near. Do yourself a favour and watch the Trilogy, listen to this podcast, and then buy yourself a hoverboard!

Show Notes 

  • Intro Clip: Back to the Future, Part I
  • Steve makes a tenuous connection between Back to the Future and Shakespeare
  • The ‘period piece’ element of the various versions of Hill Valley
  • BttF1’s plot makes Steven uncomfortable
  • The cheesy morality tale that is these films.
  • Steven thoroughly confuses which DeLoreans are when. Dave does not.
  • Dave talks about how swelling the music is.
  • Dave makes a claim about the DeLorean being the first moving time machine, forgetting the USS Enterprise, H.G. Wells’ Time Machine sled, and riding Superman as he flies counter-clockwise around the sun.
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Ep. 11: Did She Know Harry Was a Horcrux the Whole Time?

Ep. 11: Did She Know Harry Was a Horcrux the Whole Time?

Episode 11, ‘Did she know Harry was a Horcrux the whole time?’, on Harry Potter

In this episode, Dave and Steven discuss J.K. Rowling’s famous book series. They discuss her storytelling, writing style, and of course, the wonderful characters she created.

Show Notes

  • Intro Clip: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part II
  • Dave and Steve forgot that The Prisoner of Azkaban breaks the now familiar opening of the first two; Dave and Steve incorrectly say “Voldemort” multiple times, not knowing that JK Rowling decided that it is a silent ‘T’. They don’t feel bad about it.
  • Does Steve mispronounce multiple characters names throughout this episode? Probably.
  • Harry Potter: Surprise Christmas Classics?
  • Dave shows his fear of Lord Voldemort by using the “He Who Must Not Be Named” title.
  • The slow build of Harry’s battles with the various versions of Lord Voldemort.
  • No offer left behind: story- and world-building with JK Rowling.
  • Question: How awesome is Dumbledore? Answer: Awesome.
  • Steve and Dave struggle with their Latin pronunciation.
  • How important is luck in the wizarding world (Or, at least, in Harry Potter’s world)?
  • Steven continues his trend of disliking child actors far more than is probably reasonable.
  • A little less conversation, a little more action please? No. Not at all. The talky-talk is important and fascinating.
  • Steven comes dangerously close to replicating the Architect’s ‘problem of choice’ speech from The Matrix: Reloaded.
  • The ever present threat of death that arises out of the end of Book IV
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